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    Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 1:33pm
Hi all,
the misses has asked for a printer for Christmas so she can print her, predominantly Black & White college work out. I'm hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone and to get a printer that can print good quality photographs also, not that I print my pics out that often, but it would be nice to have the option when the need arrises. Anyone have any advice or can suggest a decent Printer.

I definitaly don't want to go over £100, infact, I'd rather not go over £50 if possible. Are there any good printers for both B&W and colour photographs sub £50?

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G'day Carl,

Coming from a photographer perspective with 15yrs in I.T.

When it comes to printers, it's like this. You either pay for a good printer (lots of paper to print) then use a laser printer or you will go broke buying replacement inks. In general printer manufacturers make their money on consumables (inks etc).

A good photo printer will cost more for consumables and you will get less paper printed for the cost of replacement inks.

Laser printers (mono - black) in standard quality generally works out to approx between 2 - 5 cents per print from consumables. Colour laser is more expensive. Ink printing black will cost around 25 - 45 cents per page. An ink cartridge printing only back you will get about 250 pages printed per cartridge. Black laser will print up to 5500 pages per cartridge.

Ink cartridges cost less to replace, but more often, laser costs more, but replace less regularly.

The low end printers you are talking about here are very expensive to run (replacement inks) in fact some of these very low end ink printers are cheaper to replace than to buy new ink cartridges.

So what do I use?

I used to use an old lexmark E230 mono laser printer and this printer did probably 15,000+ prints a year and each replacement cartridge cost about $80 to replace / refill and used about 3 a year. We used this old printer for about 6 years and when I gave it away, it was still working perfectly and it had 2 full cartridges that I gave to a friend.

I now have a Kyocera FS-C5100DN colour laser for my wife to print out Uni stuff (she is a lecturer) both mono and colour has 4 cartridges and the black will print around 6500 prints and costs about $145 to replace and colour cartridges are a bit more expensive but also print slightly less. Probably around $180 or so. Recently these printers where on a worldwide special, very cheap in fact about $350. These do not print good photo quality, they are commercial printers.

My photo printer is a canon 9500pro mkII, and I only use it for printing photo's. It has 10 cartriges and costs around $200 to replace all cartridges (complete set).

So in reality you have 2 choices. Pay up front or constantly pay. If you say that you will get refilled cartridges cheap, it's actually false economy. You will get less prints (they dont refill the cartridges full) and most have a counter in that will only go to a particular print number then stop printing and then you must by a new cartridge. And the prints are not as good a quality as genuine. Usually non-genuine cartridges are very hit and miss as to whether they will work.

Inkjet photo printers. I have a tendency to favour the canon photo printers, but look for individual cartridges, so that you can replace just the ones that are empty and not the lot as one colour is empty and now stopped printing, but the other colours are full.

Another option is using a Constant Ink System (CIS) and these are generally as much as the original purchase and have a larger reservoir that feeds into a smaller cartridge. But I have never used one and dont know the quality of the prints. Inks are at a bulk price.

Hope this helps. But there is no CHEAP way out.

Regards,
Craig

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yep that is the way Craig,there is not a other way,cheaper ,you wil not have the Photo prints in a good quality .
it is al about colors what you can mix whil the picture is printhing.
MkII is btw very nice printer like that one, wil buy him later.
MkII have also one with 14 cartridges if im right.
is thru you juse it only for printhing picters.

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G'day Rene,

The new Canon Pixma Pro-1 (Pro9500MKII replacement) has 12 cartridges. The Pro9500MKII has 10 cartridges, the Pro9000 MKII has 8 cartridges.

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G'day Craig

thanks for the info Craig ,


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Carl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 1:54pm
How rude of me! Thank you Craig for your indepth response, very much appreciate your time. I take onboard your points, probably wont try killing two birds with one stone, and just down the office printer route for now, and will consider photograph quality printers when I make it Pro!

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Xerox ColorQube 8570 uses solid ink (wax) technology. Stunning results. If thats out of your price range, try to find the predecessor Phaser 8560

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